Lee Harvey Oswald aussi.



han_solo a écrit:mdata a écrit:Sysy77 a écrit:L'arroseur arrosé :
Chez les MAGA et ses anciens fervents soutiens, une théorie complotiste affirme maintenant que Trump a organisé l'attentat qui a failli le tuer à Bulter en pleine campagne.
https://www.slate.fr/monde/partie-camp-maga-trump-simule-assassinat-tentative-republicains-complotistes-tucker-carlson
Honnêtement même sans être complotiste elle puait le fake cette affaire...
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Le tireur a été abattu

mdata a écrit:Honnêtement même sans être complotiste elle puait le fake cette affaire...
han_solo a écrit:?
Le tireur a été abattu


toine74 a écrit:Lee Harvey Oswald aussi.


rahoul a écrit:toine74 a écrit:Lee Harvey Oswald aussi.
Jack Ruby aussi.![]()

toine74 a écrit:Lee Harvey Oswald aussi.

Ocatarinetabelatchixtchix a écrit:mdata a écrit:Honnêtement même sans être complotiste elle puait le fake cette affaire...han_solo a écrit:?
Le tireur a été abattu
Et une personne du public qui se trouvait derrière Trump a été tuée. Les deux gars ont donc accepté de perdre la vie pour faire un fake c'est du grand art...

han_solo a écrit:toine74 a écrit:Lee Harvey Oswald aussi.
Oui ...
Mais JFK est bien mort : ce n'était en rien un faux attentat même si on ne connaîtra jamais tous les responsables de l'assassinat.
C'est toujours plus simple de croire que les attentats sont simplement des coups montés.

mdata a écrit:Pour la personne du public, ça peut être un imprévu mais que le tireur (abattu en effet) soit possiblement un pion "jetable" (qui n'était sûrement pas au courant qu'il l'était) c'est si invraisemblable que ça ?

mdata a écrit: c'est si invraisemblable que ça ?


Ocatarinetabelatchixtchix a écrit:mdata a écrit:Pour la personne du public, ça peut être un imprévu mais que le tireur (abattu en effet) soit possiblement un pion "jetable" (qui n'était sûrement pas au courant qu'il l'était) c'est si invraisemblable que ça ?
Trump n'est certes pas une lumière mais de là à croire qu'il accepterait qu'un individu situé à 135 mètres tire sur son oreille faut pas charrier non plus. A cette distance même un tireur d'élite ne s'y risquerait pas.


kamandi a écrit:mdata a écrit: c'est si invraisemblable que ça ?
totalement invraisemblable et ... non rien.
Quant à la chance de Trump, ben fallait pas viser la tête
c'est un truc qu'on apprend à l'armée (et oui je suis vieux) lors des rares séances de tir au Famas. Pour neutraliser un ennemi on vise le torse, jamais la tête. La surface est plus grande, moins mouvante et de toute façon avec une balle de fusil d'assaut, gilet par balle ou pas , le mec en face il est de toute façon hors de combat.


kamandi a écrit:mdata a écrit: c'est si invraisemblable que ça ?
totalement invraisemblable et ... non rien.
Quant à la chance de Trump, ben fallait pas viser la tête
c'est un truc qu'on apprend à l'armée (et oui je suis vieux) lors des rares séances de tir au Famas. Pour neutraliser un ennemi on vise le torse, jamais la tête. La surface est plus grande, moins mouvante et de toute façon avec une balle de fusil d'assaut, gilet par balle ou pas , le mec en face il est de toute façon hors de combat.

Ocatarinetabelatchixtchix a écrit:mdata a écrit:Pour la personne du public, ça peut être un imprévu mais que le tireur (abattu en effet) soit possiblement un pion "jetable" (qui n'était sûrement pas au courant qu'il l'était) c'est si invraisemblable que ça ?
Trump n'est certes pas une lumière mais de là à croire qu'il accepterait qu'un individu situé à 135 mètres tire sur son oreille faut pas charrier non plus. A cette distance même un tireur d'élite ne s'y risquerait pas.

mdata a écrit: Ou alors le Donald a vraiment le cul bordé de nouilles...


Now Trump Reportedly Wants Nation’s Highest Military Honor... For Himself
The president has been talking about giving himself the Medal of Honor, according to the Wall Street Journal.
President Donald Trump has never served in the U.S. armed forces, but he reportedly wants to give himself the nation’s highest military honor anyway.
The Wall Street Journal reported over the weekend that Trump has “mused” about awarding himself the Medal of Honor.
The medal is bestowed by the president on service members who, according to the official criteria, “distinguish themselves conspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity, risking loss of life above and beyond the call of duty” in one of three circumstances.
Those are engaging in military action against a U.S. enemy, in military operations with an opposing foreign force, or while serving with friendly foreign forces in an armed conflict.
It’s not apparent how or why Trump thinks he may qualify, given that he has never served in the military. During the Vietnam War, Trump received four deferments for college and one for bone spurs in his heels.
He later told radio host Howard Stern that avoiding sexually transmitted diseases was “my personal Vietnam.”
Trump, as president, is commander-in-chief of the armed forces ― but that’s a civilian position.
That hasn’t stopped him from wishing for the medal.
In February, he said he wanted a medal for his 2018 trip to Iraq during his previous term in office.
“I flew to Iraq. I was extremely brave. So brave I wanted to give myself the Congressional Medal of Honor,” he said, adding that he asked his “people” if he was allowed to do so. “Someday I’m gonna try. I’m gonna test the law.”
He made similar comments during his State of the Union address later that month.
“I’ve always wanted the Congressional Medal of Honor, but I was informed I’m not allowed to give it to myself, and I wouldn’t know why I’d be taking it,” Trump said. “But if they ever open up that law, I will be there with you someday.”
It’s unclear if he’ll try to give himself the medal.
But since returning to the office last year, he’s racked up a number of “honors” and “awards,” at least some of which appear to have been made just for him.
In February, the Washington Coal Club awarded the president a trophy declaring him the “Undisputed Champion of Beautiful Clean Coal” at a White House ceremony.
Last year, he was given the first ― and only ― FIFA Peace Prize by the governing body for soccer.
Trump has also publicly obsessed over and openly sulked about not receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. He finally got one, but only sort of: Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado, who won last year, gave Trump her medal.
Trump boasts ‘I would have won Vietnam very quickly’ as Iran peace hangs in balance
Donald Trump boasted that he “would have won Vietnam very quickly” had he been president during the decades-long conflict, as the U.S.-Iran peace deal hangs in the balance.
The president joined CNBC’s Squawk Box by phone Tuesday morning where he spoke for more than 30 minutes about the Iran war, his pick for Fed chair Kevin Warsh, oil prices and the White House ballroom.
The Vietnam digression came as Trump compared the Iran conflict, which began nearly two months ago, with the length of other wars that America has been embroiled in.
“I just looked at a little chart: World War I, four years and three months. World War II, six years. Korean War, three years. Vietnam, 19 years. Iraq, eight years — I’m five months [in Iran],” Trump said.
“I would have won Vietnam very quickly. I would have, if I were president.”
Unlike most American men of his generation, 79-year-old Trump avoided military service in Vietnam despite the U.S. having a mandatory draft at the time. The U.S. was involved militarily in Vietnam from about 1954 until 1975 and over 58,000 American service members were killed in the armed conflict.
In 1968, a podiatrist who rented New York office space from his father, Fred Trump, told a draft board that the future president had bone spurs in his heels, rendering him ineligible to be conscripted into service.
He was granted four student deferments during his time as an undergraduate at the University of Pennsylvania. But when he became eligible to be drafted once more upon his graduation, he quickly obtained a medical deferment that kept him from being conscripted, thanks to one of his real estate mogul father’s tenants.
According to The New York Times, Trump presented the draft board with a letter from Dr. Larry Braunstein, a Queens-based podiatrist, which stated that he had bone spurs in both heels. Braunstein’s daughter, Dr. Elysa Braunstein, told the Times that her father had told her that he’d given Trump the letter as a favor to his father.
Trump’s former lawyer, Michael Cohen, told Congress in 2019 that Trump never provided him with any documentation to support the diagnosis of bone spurs when he was questioned about Trump’s medical deferments during the 2016 presidential election.
“Mr. Trump claimed (his medical deferment) was because of a bone spur, but when I asked for medical records, he gave me none and said there was no surgery,” Cohen said.
He told me not to answer the specific questions by reporters but rather offer simply the fact that he received a medical deferment.”
Trump’s flippant boast about his purported ability to easily resolve conflicts that dragged on for decades under multiple administrations comes as his own administration is preparing for yet another round of talks with Iranian representatives in an effort to end the war he launched nearly two months ago.


A Shermanesque statement, also called a Sherman statement, Sherman speech, or the full Sherman, is American political jargon for a clear and direct statement by a potential candidate indicating that they will not run for a particular elected position.

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